• thegoodyinthehoody@sh.itjust.works
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    As a gay man I can whole heartedly tell you only women think men make money just to get women. Plus if a woman is attracted to a guy just because of wealth then that’s a doomed relationship, now go sip your tea

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      I agree it’s hard to know what’s part of divide and conquer political psyops and whether that was the intention or not of the person that created the original content.

      I personally scrolled by this and read it as a debate about feminism in its most basic sense (equality for all) vs conservative traditionalism and patriarchy (heirarchy based control). Not as an attack on men, or to exclude anyone who doesn’t fall into the heteronormative categories which exist as a consequence of the protected heirarchies demanded by conservative traditionalism and patriarchy.

      Like the propaganda behind conservative traditionalism has always relied on convincing people that all of modern society’s problems are simply due to moving further away from the traditional values of the past. It’s circular logic that offers easy and appealing solutions to those being targeted with propaganda, while offering a scapegoat and relying on supporters to either remain unaware of or intentionally ignore the very obvious problems caused by conservative heirarchies (“values”) the traditionalist movement seeks to preserve and strengthen.

      For example, addressing the declining standard of living with each successive generation, lack of affordable housing, affordable education, and job opportunities in the United States. Traditional conservativism often targets young men by offering them easy solutions to the issues by claiming they were caused by the feminist and civil rights movements moving American society away from the traditional values (heirarchies) that were already in place. DEI practices that arose from those movements mean that the resources previously available for young men to build the American dream, are now unavailable because they’re being handed to women and minorities while young men have been forgotten. Essentially, these movements have upset the natural order of things, and until that order is restored, there will be no way to fix the problems. How do you fix the problem? Remove equality.

      It’s definitely true that opportunity, housing, affordability, and standard of living have all noticably declined in the U.S over the last 50 years. The argument that the lack of available resources in the U.S. in 2026 can be traced to the most salient social movements 50 years prior (1970’s) is an easy conclusion to make out of context. It requires you have some knowledge of the most often discussed history of the decade without acknowledging what was simultaneously happening in the background of the U.S. in response to those movements.

      Blaming social equality movements and toppling of established heirarchies, very intentionally ignores the fact that since the 1970’s wealth has become increasingly concentrated in the hands of the 1%. It also ignores the fact that the 1970’s marks the establishment of the first U.S. conservative think tanks (Heritage Foundation, Free Congress Foundation), which were funded by billionaires, and created in direct response to fighting the civil rights movement by establishing political influence and promoting conservative economic and social policies, which both ultimately favor economic inequality.

      Tldr: To restore and preserve the conservative natural order and heirarchy, the policies promoted are always backed by traditional values that require division by default.

      The traditionalist movement argues a woman’s place is in the home, supported by a hardworking man. While equality based movements would argue a woman’s place, (like any autonomous human being, regardless of class, race, or other identity like male, female, cis, trans, NB etc.), is wherever they want it to be. Whether that’s at home, working, single, married, straight, queer, kids, no kids etc. It promotes equal choice for the individual rather than demanding conformity. The entire point is there are no pre-established roles set out for her or anybody else.

      Opportunities and resources are available to everyone who chooses to pursue them, rather than kept locked away under the control of a small but heavily insulated and protected 1%, who will then decide how to divide up whatever meager resources they’re willing to allow the other 99% to share and fight over for their own survival.

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    sad

    People will always need each other. Money doesn’t change that. People need affection and intimacy. This culture war shit keeps us filtering the world though the “safety” of their apps instead of actually connecting with each other, which is why we’re all so fucking miserable imo.

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      No, no — now repeat after me:

      Men are bad.

      Unless you’re a man at which point:

      Women are bad.

      I hope I helped.

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        Humans are bad. There are too many of us, so now we are trying to cannibalize each other. You can see in real-time that we don’t value the average person at all, or even the exceptional person (unless they are famous, and part of a product we like).

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      If i dont make money im homeless, and it’s cold here, i don’t know how to survive being homless when it’s -15C so im dead too. Envy people who can not work and not die.

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            Honnest answer, depending on where you live if you are young you can get by with very little money and live a happy life for a while. Obviously that doesn’t work for everyone.

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    Men make money to survive this cyberpunk dystopian capitalist hellscape.

    Women make money to survive this cyberpunk dystopian capitalist hellscape.

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      I’d hate to break this to you, but the cyberpunk dystopian capitalist hellscape is in its infancy. It’s barely learning to crawl yet.

      Enjoy the next thousand years or so… if you can…

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        For those wondering what typically defines the cyberpunk literary genre, its key elements include:

        High-tech, low-life scenarios: Advanced technology, such as cybernetics, artificial intelligence, and virtual reality, is prevalent, but it exists alongside widespread societal breakdown and poverty.

        Dystopian future:
        The settings are typically bleak and oppressive, often dominated by powerful corporations or decentralized, corrupt power structures.

        Impact of technology on humanity:
        Cyberpunk explores how technology shapes society, culture, and individual identity .

        Antiheroes and rebellion:
        Characters are often morally ambiguous rebels fighting against oppressive systems.

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        I hate to break it to you but cyberpunk is a critique of today’s world. Tomorrow can always get much worse.

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          Today’s world is a toe dipped in the lake of cyberpunk critique.

          Transhumanism is, for the most part, still a crackpot fringe theory. Most of us aren’t brainchipped, and there are still recognizable human interactions on the web.

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            To be fair, I don’t see anyone not even more evil than Epstein over there, ruling the world. And unless you rule the world, the worst of us eventually will. So being VERY transhuman, might actually be the only way to win.

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              If you’re referring to multilateralism, international law, and rules-based-order, I’d agree. We already had that and it (mostly) worker since the second half of the 20th Century. Although there was still a lot of room for improvement, but now we’re throwing the baby out with the bath water.

              But if you mean some well-intentioned do-gooder should conquer everybody and enforce their own standard of decency, then I’d say that’s a slippery slope and self-contradictory. Well-intentioned people don’t conquer the world.

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            I forgot what this conversation is about and I don’t feel like backtracking. All I know now is that end-stage ligma is a mouth-less person who’s craving ice cream.

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              I was making a reference to to Harlan Ellison’s I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream in which characters are kept alive and tortured perpetually. In the end one character takes one for the team, killing the others to end their suffering, and as punishment is reduced to a blob with no limbs or mouth so they can’t harm themselves.

              but also I really wanted ice cream

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              It’s about Cyberpunk dystopia. We are going to live under the worst people imaginable, and I imagine, they want the ultimate trill of inflicting eternal, maximum suffering on helpless, innocent individuals.

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          I can’t speak for everybody, but I remember when the first continents were formed from geothermal vaults at the bottom of the ocean.

          Or maybe that was just a mushroom trip. Either way, the dystopia has only just begun. Stop being pedantic.

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        The reappropriation of the Buc-ees beaver is similar to the reappropriation of Mickey Mouse by punks in the 70’s.

        Nothing says 'Muricah more than Buc-ees (and maybe us flag bathing shorts). It is a mecca for meat, oversized sodas and snacks, petrol consumption, and nice toilets to shit all the garbage you’ve consumed.

        An .ml account in the Fediverse sporting the ultimate symbol of American consumerism is exactly what I’m going for.

        • W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          It is a mecca for meat, oversized sodas and snacks, petrol consumption, and nice toilets to shit all the garbage you’ve consumed.

          I want to go to there.