• protist@mander.xyz
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    The car dealer lobby can go fuck themselves. How much cheaper would cars be already with no middle man using high pressure sales tactics

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      Not to mention the lobbying against robust transit options, and for car-centric city design. The personal automobile is marketed as freedom but in reality it is an expensive infrastructure ball & chain

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      Yeah Tesla and Rivian skipped the dealership model, but their pricing isn’t any lower. Arguably higher, especially long term when you include repair costs.

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        Tesla also runs much higher margins than competitors. They could be cheaper, but they choose not to be.

        After a quick search…
        Ford’s gross margins are about 8%.
        GM is about 7%.
        Kia is about 8%.
        Toyota is about 9%.
        Tesla is around 25-30%.
        Rivian is around 2% it looks like (but they also build the Amazon fleet, which seems to not be included in the numbers I could find quickly).
        Note that the legacy auto numbers are what the main company profits, not dealerships. The newer companies can pocket that directly.

        A primary reason is newer companies like Tesla and Rivian are still building their manufacturing capabilities. That additional profit is going towards that expansion.