We don’t value THEIR workers or THEIR labor either. We value cheap products with many features. That was basically my point from the beginning.

It isn’t. Of course established brands make quality stuff; their brand depends on it. It’s the US/Canada/Europe level of qa expectation and local laws that are driving the quality.

And cars are not only expensive as fuck, but also are an absolute necessity in most of US/Canada. I wouldn’t blame anyone for getting a fully loaded $30k brand new electric car over a similarly priced “budget” Kia. Might as well take advantage of the fact that China is subsidizing the other $20k.

There’s almost nothing that can break in an electric car over typical lease period, but I wouldn’t want to keep it past the warranty or get into a serious accident in it.

They manufacture so much because it’s cheap to manufacture there and that comes at some costs like putting very little value on people and their labor.

Also, designed in California means more than you think for established brands that have to follow American or, usually stricter, California laws.

Government subsidized is not the same thing as affordable. As soon as they are embedded, prices will go up.

Just look at Korean manufacturers in US. Some Hyundais/Kias are more expensive than Toyotas. They used to be a great cheap alternative.

Difference is Koreans actually build high quality cars and Chinese build quality is debatable.

I have to say though, the faster Tesla fucking burns, the better. Nazi trash can go fuck himself.

https://www.business-standard.com/companies/news/byd-ev-sales-profit-decline-cash-burn-2025-china-125110300804_1.html