My thought was Kratom. My dad takes it to help his depression, lately though I think it’s turned into an addiction. I think it’s more of a personal addiction though. Like getting addicted to the effect of pills rather than the pill itself
Don’t try it unless you’re already hooked on something stronger or have godlike self-control. The problem with it is two-fold: effect strenght and availability. Honestly even codeine is a better “try and forget” option if you’re that curious, bc of these 2 reasons. Way weaker, annoying to extract, pretty low ceiling dose regardless of it’s form.
But honestly just stay the fuck away from opiates, there’s so much more shit that’s not gonna ruin you like they can.
Is Kratom an opioid? I’ve never had any plans to even consider it, but I had no idea it was one. Those issues you described though make a lot of sense on how he got hooked. He’s never had good self control and it’s easily available where I am
According to the National Institute on Drug Abuse: while Kratom isn’t an opioid, it can cause “opioid-like” and “stimulant-like” effects in the brain by activating “mu-opioid receptors”
Yep, it’s method of action is different but the end result is the same
edit: if he’s still on powdered form, I can’t recommend a short break enough. Even if it’s just a week or two. Would be a good time to heal up the liver too.
If that doesn’t work, slowly (and i do mean extremely slowly) lowering the dosage could work.
Different people work differently, some quit cold turkey and prefer that to weaning off. That is if you’re in contact and he’s willing to do it.
I think you’re mixing up physical and mental dependence. Opioids can legitimately help to the point that you depend on them to fix whatever you thought was unfixable (like anxiety, pain etc), physical dependence is taking it just so you feel normal and don’t go thru withdrawals.
At any rate I hope he finds something that works without the horrible downsides of opis
Yeah. I think you have explained it far better than I have. I believe he has a mental dependency to it.
I hope he’s able to find something to. We’ve tried to help him but he’s made it clear he doesn’t want or think he needs help. So the best I can do is be supportive towards his mental health and hope he realizes he needs help
My thought was Kratom. My dad takes it to help his depression, lately though I think it’s turned into an addiction. I think it’s more of a personal addiction though. Like getting addicted to the effect of pills rather than the pill itself
Don’t try it unless you’re already hooked on something stronger or have godlike self-control. The problem with it is two-fold: effect strenght and availability. Honestly even codeine is a better “try and forget” option if you’re that curious, bc of these 2 reasons. Way weaker, annoying to extract, pretty low ceiling dose regardless of it’s form.
But honestly just stay the fuck away from opiates, there’s so much more shit that’s not gonna ruin you like they can.
Is Kratom an opioid? I’ve never had any plans to even consider it, but I had no idea it was one. Those issues you described though make a lot of sense on how he got hooked. He’s never had good self control and it’s easily available where I am
According to the National Institute on Drug Abuse: while Kratom isn’t an opioid, it can cause “opioid-like” and “stimulant-like” effects in the brain by activating “mu-opioid receptors”
Yep, it’s method of action is different but the end result is the same
edit: if he’s still on powdered form, I can’t recommend a short break enough. Even if it’s just a week or two. Would be a good time to heal up the liver too.
If that doesn’t work, slowly (and i do mean extremely slowly) lowering the dosage could work.
Different people work differently, some quit cold turkey and prefer that to weaning off. That is if you’re in contact and he’s willing to do it.
what
I’m not really sure how to put it into words. I think the words I’m looking for are a dependence vs. an addiction.
Dependence is like withdrawals and stuff from the chemical, while addiction is his brain is hooked on the effect that comes from taking it
I think you’re mixing up physical and mental dependence. Opioids can legitimately help to the point that you depend on them to fix whatever you thought was unfixable (like anxiety, pain etc), physical dependence is taking it just so you feel normal and don’t go thru withdrawals.
At any rate I hope he finds something that works without the horrible downsides of opis
Yeah. I think you have explained it far better than I have. I believe he has a mental dependency to it.
I hope he’s able to find something to. We’ve tried to help him but he’s made it clear he doesn’t want or think he needs help. So the best I can do is be supportive towards his mental health and hope he realizes he needs help