• dan1101@lemmy.world
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    5 days ago

    The far right is racist against Jews, but the conservative Christians think the Jews are the chosen people, how does that work out?

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      There’s a big difference between being pro-state-of-Israel (Zionist), and being pro-jewish-people in general. They do not necessarily go hand in hand.

      Fundamentalist christians are typically Zionist because the state of Israel is necessary for the second coming of christ. It’s entirely self-serving, not a belief they hold because they like jewish people at all. So being zionist and also antisemitic is pretty common because people are racist assholes.

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        Plus they hate muslims at least as much or more than Jews, so the math still works out.

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        But the evangelical Christians want the Jews to trigger the rapture by fighting the final huge war in israel, and I imagine the antisemites are also fine with the Jews all being sent away to israel for then to be sent off to fight a senseless war to their deaths.

        Somehow they managed to start off from different angles and both end up wanting Jews to die.

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        They sure seem to move as a monolith when it comes to systematically destroying the country in a well planned and organized manner like with project 2025, stacking the Supreme Court, dismantling civil rights, dismantling women’s rights installing a dictator and obstruction of everything that isn’t tax breaks for the people who own everything, unlimited money for Israel, unlimited corporate subsidies and installing an oppressive mass surveillance state policed by literal Nazis

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          That’s because they hate the rest of us more then they hate each other, that doesn’t mean they won’t turn on each other once its more convenient than working together.

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          They have one thing in common: the understand they can get most of what they want by voting as a block, instead of demanding their candidates tick all the boxes.

          Leftist infighting is the best tool the right has. And they know it. Whenever you see a leftist saying they won’t vote for a Democrat because “both sides are the same”, there’s a good chance you’re seeing a Russian bot or a right wing plant. Or a fucking idiot. I guess that’s a possible third option.

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              No coincidence. Just because both sides are bought and paid for does not mean they’re the same. They differ on a non-zero number of pretty tangible things.

              And if you have any realistic means to getting a third party in there, why are you not telling the rest of us??

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        Nazis hide behind zionism, blame antizionists for naziism, because its all projection and they have no respect for our intelligence, which may have been warranted in your case.

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            Israelis are nazis so it gets complicated. But they all hate the muslims more in the first place. Some nazis want to otherize other groups than the jews, tradiationalist nazis in the US are on the outs with the establishment because they still otherize jewish peoples.

            But the Israeli aligned nazis, including the israelis themselves, are generally fine with otherizing the left jewish people to a degree. Long have been, it’s them that have long called them self hating and the like, the truth is jewish people in the US are far more left than the general population, but the minority of Israel nazis in the US is very rich and very connected and not inconsequential in number and are as we were saying in league with the religious right evangelicals and other crazies, that are both in an alliance with Big Business.

            That is where the rubber meets the road, the unholy alliance between religious extremists and Big Business. Both think they can control the political monster they bastardly fathered together in their unholy tryst with, I’m not sure who the mother is in this analogy, I want to say Medusa though.

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      Actually there’s a big MAGA civil war among its most popular figureheads that boils down to two camps:

      Those that love Hitler

      And those who love New Hitler ™️ (Netanyahu)

      It started with Tucker Carlson interviewing Nick Fuentes in a verbal back massage. Candice Owens also joined along in that camp too.

      Now you have the Tucker-Candice camp at war with the Ben Shapiro camp, and Nick Fuentes attacking everyone because he’s a fucking moron even compared to the others.