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    1 day ago

    No way in hell China is more evil than America. They’re plenty evil, but nothing China has done in recent history was as evil as the War on Terror, and don’t even get me started on Israel.

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      China is:

      • Erasing Tibetan culture, including the disappearance of the Panchen Lama small child and replacement with a state approved one.
      • Committing Genocide against Uighurs, including sending them into forced labor camps and forced sterilization.
      • Controlling Hong Kong with a militaristic occupation.
      • Disputing the statehood of Taiwan.
      • Attacking Philippines and Australian vessels in their own waters.
      • Financing Russia’s war on Ukraine.
      • Financing North Korean dictatorship.
      • Causing a global shift to the conservative right using their TikTok psyop.
      • An actual, full on, permanent dictatorship.
      • Prepping for new wars by covertly constructing an underground military city 10x the size of the pentagon in only 8 months, having hoped the world wouldn’t notice.

      It’s easily, easily, eeeeaaaasiiiilllllyyy, way more evil and destructive than the USA, and holds way more puppet states around the world as well.

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        You don’t get it, but you’re not stupid so please listen. Still, with all your points, China is still the lesser evil. Please let that sink in. China is way less aggressive in its role as world police. US keeps positioning itself as the only good country in the world, having act world police all over, without mandate or collaboration from others. US politicians are getting high on their own Hollywood movie drugs. US is still threatening to invade a NATO ally, which is far worse. There’s absolutely no real reason for that, regardless of what the current US dictator will have you believe! Next, digital sovereignty is where US is also the more evil than China, because at least China is not fucking every single consumer behind a cloak of fake privacy and security. China does its fucking in daylight and that makes it less of a problem because it’s visible.

        Nobody is really allies with Chins, or Russia for that matter, but they somehow are the lesser evil.

        US is heading into an abyss, and corporate greed is at the steering wheel. Good luck with all the corruption at the top and downwards!

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          Listen, for all the bad things you can say specifically about the Trump admin, try to keep in mind that Trump won in part because he was favored by the Chinese and promoted on TikTok leading to the largest shift towards conservativism ever recorded in youth voters.

          You really made my point for me by talking about NATO, something China and Russia heavily oppose, being a deterrent to war while China has no “real” allies. Except for Russia, North Korea, Iran, Venezuela, Cuba, Indonesia, etc. You know, theres something of a trend with all of those nations, can you name what it is? The most democratic country in that list is Indonesia and it still routinely elects members of the family of the previous dictator from before 1998, under whose rule featured multiple occupations, genocides, and anticommunist purges.

          China and before them the USSR are parasitized by a social disease which spreads bloodshed and takes away human rights to everything it touches.

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            21 hours ago

            You’re still not listening. The problem is not the Trump administration but rather that he was elected - again. All of US has to take responsibility for the failed democratic setup that by definition is now a dictatorship. Even if by some magical process a not insane dictator is elected you can give no guarantees anymore that US will become better and not go batshit crazy again. “EU will have to seize Alaska for security reasons! We cannot guarantee this will not happen with military power! US is a bad ally! US is a dumpsterfire! US is a poorly led country. We in EU need to make US pay because they are have been using EU as a cash machine for years. How stupid are we in EU to let this continue. But yeah Alaska will become European one way or the other. We need it!” How does that sound? Will US support EU in the process of making Alaska European? Because we expect US to support that to ensure US is not helping China and Russia further.

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        A state that is committing multiple genocides, controlling outside populations via military occupation, challenging the sovereignty of a neighboring nation, attacking foreign vessels, financing a war they have no business being in, propping up dictators, and massively expanding their military to an alarming degree… is worse than the USA??

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        How many people did China displace in the 21st century? How many did it kill? How many regimes did it overthrow? Because the War on Terror alone displaced 40 million and killed 5 million.

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          Don’t sit there and pretend China and Russia, supporting Syria and Iran who in turn fund and militarize extremists across the middle east, had no part to play in the infinite proxy war. Not to mention Russia was the primary trading partner of Iraq under the rule of Saddam Hussein. While certainly the Bush Administration took advantage of the situation, the USA got roped into the war on terror by the 9/11 attacks orchestrated by a group of extremists from Saudi Arabia and Pakistan holding a suspicious number of AK47s popularized in the USSR, and under Obama and with help from NATO members as well as the Saudis the region was stabilizing and demilitarizing very quickly with both stronger borders and less US Troop presence.

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            23 hours ago

            You’re a hypocrite and I legitimately hope Trump throws you into a concentration camp. Have a terrible day.