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      I don’t really see how someone can position Discourse as the number one Discord alternative. Surely most people looking to ditch Discord want live chat, audio/video calls, and screen sharing… Or am I just in the minority here?

      For the record, I think Discourse looks awesome and even thinking about how I might use it for a project, but I do not see it as a Discord alternative.

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        Lots of communities use discord as a replacement for a forum despite it not being fit for it at all

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        I also want this suite of things. I stream movies to friends, share games I’m playing…

        These are core features to me now in a robust chat client

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        A lot of people don’t seem to realize that Discord has a variety of features, and each feature can be more or less useful for different types of communities. There’s almost no platform that has all of them so you have to zoom out and look at more of the general purpose. The Discord “servers” I’ve used NEVER used anything but text chat.

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          I understand that but even the text chat is a different experience than what Discourse offers. Even people who only used Discord for text chat and want a replacement for that would be better on IRC.

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            It’s not the text chat they’re referring to. An annoying amount of open so it be projects use Discord as a replacement for forums specifically.

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              I’m aware but I don’t think this was the issue Ulrich was speaking of. If they were, I don’t think it was well conveyed.

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              I honestly think the vast majority of people on Discord don’t know what IRC is, and therefore don’t have an opinion of it. However, I didn’t mean to suggest IRC as the best alternative anyway.

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                Okay so they know what Discord is, but they don’t know what IRC is, despite it being 20 years older. What does that tell you?

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        By reducing a complex topic down to one score that has “features” as only one of many factors, so that “openness” and “safety” push it to the top.

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        I thought Discourse was bought by Roblox, merged into Roblox, and then discontinued outside of Roblox?

        I’m thinking of something else, I think.

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    No, he hasn’t been running a discord server. It’s a channel. Discord is running the servers.

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        I can only assume it’s on purpose so average users really understand it wrong to avoid the associated negative view. Clever, really. But absolutely evil.

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          This wasn’t intended to be misleading. The term “Server” as in a Discord Server is because, be fore Discord were the days of Ventrilo and TeamSpeak. For many of us gamers used to have to run or pay for their own actual server to have that kind of functionality. Then we’d combine direct calling with Skype for small groups and video. The term made sense at the time, but hasn’t held up to the test of time. Basically Discord solved a problems of having to pay for those servers, and having to use two separate programs.

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            I’m a it professional (working in enterprise DCs) and have been running ts2 and murmur myself. It was misleading from the beginning and while I do understand your point I can not see a company doing this in good faith, I am too old for that.

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            You didn’t provide any evidence that it wasn’t intentionally misleading. Discord was clearly intended to replace communities like IRC, Ventrilo and TeamSpeak so they used language that was familiar to them, even though it was completely incorrect.

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      I highly doubt that when you start a “Discord server”, there’s any new machinery spun up. There is a near 100% chance it’s just an entry in a database. Nobody’s running a server just for him. So I don’t think there’s even reason to be charitable.

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    Not reviewed in this eval:

    • DeltaChat (though would likely score similar to Signal with more points for decentralization)
    • IRC
    • XMPP
    • Lemmy/PieFed/Nodebb (if he’s going to include Discourse…)
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    If Stoat (formerly Revolt) can integrate screen sharing capabilities soon enough, they will be the closest, user-friendly experience to Discord. Even the UI is familiar, if you come from Discord.

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    did he not try stoat? he just put a bunch of question marks there.

    I’d have thought if that was the case it’d be left out of the rankings.

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        If we’re referring to the article in the link, being self-hosted didn’t seem to be a hard requirement, merely that the app is a potential alternative.

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          You’re correct. I think a lot of folks are looking for something decentralized/self-hostable to avoid the lock-in disaster that Discord has created, at least, I am. And I have found a dearth of alternatives! Good article, though.

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    Switching to a self-hosted good old Teamspeak 6. Their screen sharing is very good, and audio quality is far above Discord. Overall it’s still need some polish but is okay.

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          But isn’t that the wrong approach?

          If you want to choose something better, shouldn’t be ‘enshittificationability’ be the main point you want to address? That is the reason discord is doing most of the bad stuff. Proprietary software is about enshittification.

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        True. At least it’s self-hosted. I just hope some real alternative to Discord comes soon.

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    This reminds me that a saw someone like luisus rossman reccomend a discord like thing that worked as a better forum/wiki/discord for small developers that’s shows up on web searches, I think it had real time chat but I can’t remember

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    How many of these have moderation issues? Like, unwanted content uploads and stuff. How many expose you to accidentally hosting illicit content?

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    Tangential but figure eyes are probably on here:

    Any good guides or discussions for setting up and running Matrix in a VPS? Been thinking on and off I should do that for a few months now (and lack of account migration means I either start with my own domain or forever use a generic).