I like how dolphin can do checksums in the GUI
at least kde has some ui density, gtk5/6 is atrocious on lowres displays
theres gtk6 now?!
oh bruh i meant gtk4/5 haha sorry
theres gtk5 now???
oh bruh i meant gtk3/4 haha sorry
I had 768p monitor, gnome title bars ate my screen space, I had to unironicly set my scale factor to 70% on gnome tweaks to even attempt to try out gnome and even then I gave up and installed plasma
But kde applications use even more space with the title bar, menu bar and tool bar. Even if you disable the toolbar and menu bar, there’s much more padding in kde applications resulting in the content area being significantly smaller. I just compared Kate to gedit and the new gnome text editor and it’s not even close. The gnome applications are much more compact.
I’ve been seeing people complain about header bars being “huge” for years, but every time I actually do a comparison, the header bar application turns out to be more compact than the alternative.
The only issue with gnome in that area is their antagonism towards themes, as themes can easily fix any size possible problems, but the newest default theme is quite reasonable. I used to have custom CSS to shrink the header bars, but it’s no longer necessary.
That being said I recently switched to plasma as well, as gnome’s forced Wayland transition resulted in way too many workflow issues and bugs. But I just configured plasma to work like gnome-shell and I’m continuing to use gnome applications.
Menubar and toolbars are part of the content. Thoose are stuff that you would use in that application, unlike big fat title bar which doesn’t have anything much in it. I don’t understand your padding argument i don’t think there is big padding on any of my kde apps.
Also compact means more stuff in less space. Gedit has very few stuff in big titlebar
Literal lies and deceptions.
I mean, I installed Kate just to do a comparison before posting, I can show you the screenshots if you want. Or just continue believing what you want.
I’m just glad the fallback preset setting finally exists. Means I can tune my laptop speakers but default to a “clean” empty preset for any other device. Dev said that the feature wasn’t gonna happen until the Qt version was the main version. Under the GTK version I had to manually add an entry for every new audio device
It actually hurt me a little how they made a perfectly wellade GTK app into a QT mess for no reason whatsoever. But oh well, I don’t maintain it and it’s not my place to complain much about it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Like it still remains usable
You can read about the reasoning here.
Basically using GTK alone became a lot of unenjoyable work for them because they didn’t want to depend on libadwaita and since its something they do for free in their free time it has to be fun.
having targetted both Qt api and the new Libadwaita api, this is going to happen more and more. the new GTK APIs are a pain in the ass and it’s pretty clear they only target GNOME, and since GNOME 4, there’s been no guarantee of API backwards compatiblity. it’s a nightmare.
So what you’re saying is gnome is a self solving problem
they took all the wrong lessons from NodeJS and have slowly been making themselves irrelevant outside of bleeding edge and rolling release distros. from the GNOME devolopers i’ve talked to, they don’t see this as any of their concern because they’re still the leading desktop environmnet, however, more and more i see Qt becoming the general development target, and i don’t see that changing unless GNOME starts treating Gtk as something GNOME is built around rather than as something that makes developing GNOME apps easy. KD, and LXDE together make up more of the user desktops than GNOME, XFCE, and Cinnamon, and GNOME is the only one of those that even supports the latest versions of Gtk.
they’ve been alienating users for 15 years now, and they refuse to change course. i don’t think it will be long until KDE is the leading desktop environment purely because GNOME refuses to treat critiques of their desktop as legitimate concerns from frustrated users rather than as opportunities to create something better. it will eventually get to a point where only the people who treat Richard Stallman as a religious figure will still be around
Yeah, the thing that bothers me about GNOME isn’t the design, that’s not for me but whatever, it’s the attitude the project takes to collaboration and refusing to compromise on anything that would be useful for literally every other desktop in stuff like Wayland protocols
yuuup! then when other devs get fed up and align themselves with other toolkits, GNOME’s adherents complain about the fracturing nature of desktop. and it’s like… self reflect! realize who fractured it! change your attitude!
I mean it works for countless other applications in the Gnome ecosystem, but as you said. If it isn’t fun for them it’s absolutely their right to switch
Yes, for the Gnome ecosystem.
Not sure I follow. Which app?
Easy effects. It adds effects to your audio, allowing you to fix audio balance, pump up the basses, and take 50% of your CPU because you put too much effects
I use it btw
I’d be fine with it, but I had to pin the flatpak to an old release for now, because the redesign fucked up the migration, deleted all my presets and also caused issues with voice chat apps not getting any audio input. The new UI is also unquestionably a downgrade and less accessible when it comes to setting slider values, but I hope that can be fixed with time. I certainly don’t blame FOSS devs for their work.
Btw. seeing some of the comments in here: is it the fate of all Linux shitposting forums to be filled with hardliners who really care what software you install on you Linux system? Let me use my GTK apps in peace. I don’t need opinions on UI cleanliness and density from people who don’t even use easyeffects, because my god, is it a mess currently.
i just can’t stand gnome anymore, it was my favorite for a long time too. KDE is fine but I fucking hate Dolphin. I’m into Cosmic right now but I’m not sure I like the file manager
Cosmic is fun and has a lot of potential. It’s a bit like a new take on XFCE. However it has weird limitations and bugs still. For example when editing the top and bottom panel, it’s divided into beginning, end, and center. XFCE and other solve this with providing a flexible space to achieve the same.
I have discovered a few anoyances with Cosmic, the file manager is crap lol
Yes, it’s early days.
There are a couple of really cool projects going on at the moment, that use some kind of tiling.
DankLinux and Noctalia used with niri is worth trying for example.
Omarchy gets a lot of hate, however it’s actually really well done. Probably the best intro to a tiling window manager with keyboard focus. The included features are well thought out. Included documentation is excellent. It also looks great. Lots of attention to detail. It shows how to make a distro that’s very different from Windows and Mac OS. Instead of trying to ape the popular OS, it leans into the strengths of Linux.
Interesting, dolphin is by far my favorite file manager. What don’t you like about it?
I’d have to use it again to tell you, to be honest. It’s been couple months since I last did and so my memory is a little foggy except for my dislike. I remember not liking how tabs work and how it took a bunch of tinkering to make it less annoying.
on a machine that I ran for years, i basically did kde but with a different file manager, that was wonky and presented it’s own problems but it wasn’t Dolphin so I was satisfied
gnome style is too rounded for me hurts my eyes when i see it
Gnome style looks like a early 2010s iOS app
No, back then iOS was still heavy on skeuomorphic design. I‘d love for a desktop environment that embraces that.
I dislike GTK because it looks clunky and dated to me. I need glassy blur effects on all windows.
same except the last part, I need more win95 looking apps
Best blur is no blur. Except this Blur.
