Equally controversial fact:
I am not obliged by law or morality to follow what is written in your fucking book either way.
My version: I don’t fucking care what your dumb book says.
I used to always reply with “i’m Jewish”. They gear clashed like fucking crazy. It was hilarious.
Now i’m done even vaguely entertaining these shitheels
i used to use “i’m pagan” and watch the sparks fly but that’s gonna get me killed one of these days
i used to use “i’m pagan”
Oh cool, I’m also a Catholic.
What should be controversial is pretending a goat shepherds religious book from the bronze age should have any kind of authority in the 21st century.
I mean, if the goat shepherds have some strong moral positions, I don’t see why they’d be disqualified. Ethics isn’t something we invented in the 21st century, ffs. Bronze Age humans had as much a claim to it as anyone. Just ask Socrates or Confucius or Nezahualcóyotl.
Given the current state of the 21st century political scene, I’m not bending over to give modern day philosophers extra credit. Say what you will about Thomas Aquinas, he doesn’t appear anywhere in the Epstein flight logs. That’s more than Noam Chomsky or Peter Mandelson can claim.
Every time I hear the word bible and fact in the same sentence the church bells start ringing in my head.
Didn’t Mary and Joseph live together before they were married?
It was acceptable because Mary could do sick ollies at the half pipe
No, they just had a baby in a cave together and claimed it was a virgin birth.
Seriously though, I thought they were married?
I did a quick look, but tbh I would need to know more about ancient judaic wedding practices.
Here goes: in Gospel by Luke, when Mary gets the announcement, they are betrothed (fiancée).
In Gospel by Matthew, Joseph hears of this and wants to cancel the betrothement, but gets an explanation by an angel and “takes her in” but doesn’t sleep with her until after Jesus is born.
In Gospel by Luke, when they arrive in Bethlehem, they’re called betrothed. So I don’t know how official and extensive the “taking in” is to be seen.Anyways, look what I found in the Song of Mary:
He performs mighty deeds with his arm; he scatters those who are proud in their inmost thoughts.
He brings down rulers from their thrones but lifts up the humble.
He fills the hungry with good things but sends the rich away empty.luke 2 verse 5 in the king james version i grew up with:
To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child
luke 1 verses 26 and 27
And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth,
To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin’s name was Mary.
now i always took that espoused in context to mean betrothed, not married. although i was never 100% up on marriage customs of the time. they had a formal relationship, were planning on being married, she claims she was a virgin and she was very pregnant. that’s what i got.
What does it say about women speaking again?
I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.”
Paul probably didn’t write that paragraph of verses. It was most likely added by someone else along the way.
To your point of people wanting to take only portions of the Bible literally and ignore others, there are TONS of things that the old testament says to do that we don’t do every day.
Christians on old testament laws:
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prohibition on eating pork: god actually didn’t mean we should stop eating pork. It was an accident bro.
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prohibition on vaguely sexual acts without clear translation: this is the word of god, how dare these people exist
I’m not defending Christianity, but the actual defense of pork is that Jesus had made pork clean, in a vision to Peter where the analogy was that Jesus also made non Jewish people clean, since mixing with them was also forbidden. So less accident, more amendment.
They would also claim (from my experience in a cult anyway) that the old laws were necessary at the time they were given, but by the time Jesus came he could revise them as they were more ready.
If we look at it from a secular viewpoint, badly cooked pork probably caused a bunch of illness to was banned, and by the time Jesus supposedly existed people had learned to cook it more safely.
If only they took jesus’ thousands of negative views on the wealthy as seriously as they take his one revision to pork law.
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A whole lot of the bible wasn’t written by Paul. Doesn’t mean its not part of the bible.
Did God marry Mary, before he knocked her up?
Outside the Ten Commandments (supposedly), the Bible was written entirely by fallible humans - these assholes keep forgetting that part & act like it’s 100% perfect (which we know it’s not simply by its own self-contradictions).
It is also important to not forget about how the Bible was formed.
What we know as the Bible is a collection of books, selected by a committee during a conclave centuries ago.
Any decision made by humans in power and influence will inevitably be favoring their own goals and politics.
There are plenty of other Christian texts that were excluded, how would they have changed Christianity if they were included?
Also an awful lot of it is about being submissive and letting people take advantage of you. At least based off what I see getting quoted all the time. Weird how it’s always people who’re trying to control you quoting it.
There are so many books. It is strange that this one gets so much attention.
But it’s a Good Book don’t ya know! If you just read one book it should be a Good Book.
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